'Take your chance when you see it, and hit from where your hand is.
Why do I win fights?
Because I see the chance when it comes, and I take it.'
Bob Fitzsimmons
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sH8EhqK9gEo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ijk4Y2vsNBw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_o_WOTkgZSw
Monday 17 October 2016
'All this is training for the moment of real danger.
You may be attacked in the street by footpads.
They intend to rob you, and you may be in a lonely, dark locality.
Of course, their first efforts are directed to rendering you helpless.
Now, take the man who does not know how to box, who has never been drilled to keep cool and calm in moments of danger.
What happens to him?
He is probably found lying in the gutter in the gray light of early morning, his pockets rifled, and with possibly a fractured skull.'
Bob Fitzsimmons, former heavyweight champion of the world, writing in his book 'Physical Culture and Self Defense' (1901).
You may be attacked in the street by footpads.
They intend to rob you, and you may be in a lonely, dark locality.
Of course, their first efforts are directed to rendering you helpless.
Now, take the man who does not know how to box, who has never been drilled to keep cool and calm in moments of danger.
What happens to him?
He is probably found lying in the gutter in the gray light of early morning, his pockets rifled, and with possibly a fractured skull.'
Bob Fitzsimmons, former heavyweight champion of the world, writing in his book 'Physical Culture and Self Defense' (1901).
Here's a short video of a guy, Alexander Zhelezniak, who I consider to be a genius, or at least sublimely skilled.
He trains and teaches many weapons, always with the emphasis on realistic sparring from the outset.
I find it mesmerising watching him work (especially with the machete), and appreciate the science and the art of what these guys do.
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'The medium staff (120-140 cm) is basically a wooden stick. It is an ancient weapon of the common people and was widely used in all cultures.
A shepherd’s staff, a walking cane or an actual weapon – the uses of a simple stick are numerous, be it to ward off animals or an assailant.This effective tool is extremely versatile yet simple to use in combat both for attack and defense. Its length and flexibility may vary from culture to culture but always there are similarities in its martial application be it Kalaripayattu (India) or Filipino Tapado or a Jogo Do Pau fighting stick (Portuguese).
This weapon though almost intuitive in use, once properly studied can deliver a wide range of attacks. It can be swung two handed as well as single handed, generating great speed and force, causing massive damage on impact.
It’s capable of powerful thrusts and can be applied in both close and long ranges alike. Since it is an impact weapon the main targets are the head, joints, thin bones, and vital targets such as the solar plexus, groin and throat.
A major influence to our medium staff curriculum is Jogo Do Pau, a Portuguese stick fighting system. It is a sophisticated yet easy to learn “no nonsense” fighting method which is battle tested against singe opponent as well as against multiple attackers.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56bSoFrHCEw
He trains and teaches many weapons, always with the emphasis on realistic sparring from the outset.
I find it mesmerising watching him work (especially with the machete), and appreciate the science and the art of what these guys do.
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'The medium staff (120-140 cm) is basically a wooden stick. It is an ancient weapon of the common people and was widely used in all cultures.
A shepherd’s staff, a walking cane or an actual weapon – the uses of a simple stick are numerous, be it to ward off animals or an assailant.This effective tool is extremely versatile yet simple to use in combat both for attack and defense. Its length and flexibility may vary from culture to culture but always there are similarities in its martial application be it Kalaripayattu (India) or Filipino Tapado or a Jogo Do Pau fighting stick (Portuguese).
This weapon though almost intuitive in use, once properly studied can deliver a wide range of attacks. It can be swung two handed as well as single handed, generating great speed and force, causing massive damage on impact.
It’s capable of powerful thrusts and can be applied in both close and long ranges alike. Since it is an impact weapon the main targets are the head, joints, thin bones, and vital targets such as the solar plexus, groin and throat.
A major influence to our medium staff curriculum is Jogo Do Pau, a Portuguese stick fighting system. It is a sophisticated yet easy to learn “no nonsense” fighting method which is battle tested against singe opponent as well as against multiple attackers.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56bSoFrHCEw
Randy Couture Closing the Distance and Clinchwork, essential study for 'Nouveau-Bartitsu'
Greco-Roman wrestler Randy Couture, who had also boxed whilst in the Navy, was a true pioneer of modern MMA.
He is most well-known for his success using a style/tactic that came to be known as 'dirty boxing'; a blend of Greco-Roman clinch fighting with boxing punches, perhaps not unlike some of the methods used under the London Prize Ring and earlier rules.
In the instructional video of his that I'm posting, he shows 'elbow destructions' apparently entirely consistent with descriptions of those within Bartitsu, whilst seeking to clinch.
He also uses boxing punches to the same end, as well as the front kick which is also a technique shown by Vigny in the Bartitsu club.
http://www.bartitsu.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Vigny-demonstrates-savate-in-Bartitsu-Club.jpg
Some, who are scared of reality and prefer to remain cocooned in a world of books and LARP-style games, might argue that 'this is modern sport technique, and not historical!'.
Quite obviously, it's much better to learn from people who are successful at fighting- and by our own successes in fighting, than just by playing away 'blind' from historical source material, and 'imagining' what a fight might look or feel like!
People who already fight in some capacity will think this is so obvious as to not merit mentioning-
yet far from everyone who bases their methods on the historical material DOES actually fight, from the evidence available to me.
In fact, perhaps instead of using the original sources as the inspiration and framework to guide their development of a coherent fighting system, many prefer to retreat into fantasy and play acting?
If not, surely they would follow the examples of the Bartitsu club instructors, and actually spar and test their skills in open challenges.
Which is much safer to do in a boxing, wrestling, jiujitsu/judo, savate, MMA or Dog Brothers gym (as long as Vigny is used in any DB experiments, I see no issue with using that testing ground), than by going down Barton-Wright's and Vigny's purported route of 'engaging toughs' in the street to see how well our techniques work (I used to do that myself, and it's not clever or sensible, if you want to stay out of trouble and keep your conscience clear...)!
So, this video for me is gold, as not only does it show effective techniques and functional drills, but it's all consistent with our source materials (and base arts).
Not only is it consistent with our source materials (and base arts), but it's effective and functional!
So you'd do well to constantly cross reference your historical sources with real sport fighting (preferably actually engaging in some combat sports yourselves), as well as studying footage of street assaults and robberies, and seeing what works and what doesn't in those terrible situations.
In my training, I aim to balance those 3 driving forces; historical, sport and street.
The more we develop a working synthesis of the 3, the more real/useful our 'system' is, and the more justice it does to the original fighting art/s we all love so much.
After my habitual rant/preaching, here's Randy...! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLHUt8P5A4
'As to boxing, we have guards which are not at all like the guards taught in schools, and which will make the assailant hurt his own hand and arm very seriously.'
E.W. Barton-Wright
'He (Vigny) has also a guard in boxing on which you will hurt your own arm without getting within his distance...'
From the Pall Mall Gazette (1901)
'If one gets into a row and plays the game in the recognised style of English fair play – with fists – the opponent will very likely rush in and close, in order to avoid a blow. Then comes the moment for wrestling...'
E.W. Barton-Wright
' Again, should it happen that the assailant is a better boxer than oneself, the knowledge of Japanese wrestling will enable one to close and throw him without any risk of getting hurt oneself.'
E.W. Barton-Wright
'In order to ensure as far as it was possible immunity against injury in cowardly attacks or quarrels, (one) must understand boxing in order to thoroughly appreciate the danger and rapidity of a well-directed blow, and the particular parts of the body which were scientifically attacked...........judo and jiujitsu are not designed as primary means of attack and defence against a boxer..........but (are) only supposed to be used after coming to close quarters, and in order to get to close quarters, it is absolutely necessary to understand boxing........'
E.W. Barton-Wright
Barton-Wright summarised the essential principles of Bartitsu as:
He is most well-known for his success using a style/tactic that came to be known as 'dirty boxing'; a blend of Greco-Roman clinch fighting with boxing punches, perhaps not unlike some of the methods used under the London Prize Ring and earlier rules.
In the instructional video of his that I'm posting, he shows 'elbow destructions' apparently entirely consistent with descriptions of those within Bartitsu, whilst seeking to clinch.
He also uses boxing punches to the same end, as well as the front kick which is also a technique shown by Vigny in the Bartitsu club.
http://www.bartitsu.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Vigny-demonstrates-savate-in-Bartitsu-Club.jpg
Some, who are scared of reality and prefer to remain cocooned in a world of books and LARP-style games, might argue that 'this is modern sport technique, and not historical!'.
Quite obviously, it's much better to learn from people who are successful at fighting- and by our own successes in fighting, than just by playing away 'blind' from historical source material, and 'imagining' what a fight might look or feel like!
People who already fight in some capacity will think this is so obvious as to not merit mentioning-
yet far from everyone who bases their methods on the historical material DOES actually fight, from the evidence available to me.
In fact, perhaps instead of using the original sources as the inspiration and framework to guide their development of a coherent fighting system, many prefer to retreat into fantasy and play acting?
If not, surely they would follow the examples of the Bartitsu club instructors, and actually spar and test their skills in open challenges.
Which is much safer to do in a boxing, wrestling, jiujitsu/judo, savate, MMA or Dog Brothers gym (as long as Vigny is used in any DB experiments, I see no issue with using that testing ground), than by going down Barton-Wright's and Vigny's purported route of 'engaging toughs' in the street to see how well our techniques work (I used to do that myself, and it's not clever or sensible, if you want to stay out of trouble and keep your conscience clear...)!
So, this video for me is gold, as not only does it show effective techniques and functional drills, but it's all consistent with our source materials (and base arts).
Not only is it consistent with our source materials (and base arts), but it's effective and functional!
So you'd do well to constantly cross reference your historical sources with real sport fighting (preferably actually engaging in some combat sports yourselves), as well as studying footage of street assaults and robberies, and seeing what works and what doesn't in those terrible situations.
In my training, I aim to balance those 3 driving forces; historical, sport and street.
The more we develop a working synthesis of the 3, the more real/useful our 'system' is, and the more justice it does to the original fighting art/s we all love so much.
After my habitual rant/preaching, here's Randy...! :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLHUt8P5A4
'As to boxing, we have guards which are not at all like the guards taught in schools, and which will make the assailant hurt his own hand and arm very seriously.'
E.W. Barton-Wright
'He (Vigny) has also a guard in boxing on which you will hurt your own arm without getting within his distance...'
From the Pall Mall Gazette (1901)
'If one gets into a row and plays the game in the recognised style of English fair play – with fists – the opponent will very likely rush in and close, in order to avoid a blow. Then comes the moment for wrestling...'
E.W. Barton-Wright
' Again, should it happen that the assailant is a better boxer than oneself, the knowledge of Japanese wrestling will enable one to close and throw him without any risk of getting hurt oneself.'
E.W. Barton-Wright
'In order to ensure as far as it was possible immunity against injury in cowardly attacks or quarrels, (one) must understand boxing in order to thoroughly appreciate the danger and rapidity of a well-directed blow, and the particular parts of the body which were scientifically attacked...........judo and jiujitsu are not designed as primary means of attack and defence against a boxer..........but (are) only supposed to be used after coming to close quarters, and in order to get to close quarters, it is absolutely necessary to understand boxing........'
E.W. Barton-Wright
Barton-Wright summarised the essential principles of Bartitsu as:
- To disturb the equilibrium of your assailant.
- To surprise him before he has time to regain his balance and use his strength.
- If necessary, to subject the joints of any parts of his body, whether neck, shoulder, elbow, wrist, back, knee, ankle, etc. to strains that they are anatomically and mechanically unable to resist.
Sunday 16 October 2016
SOME STARTING POINTS FOR ADAPTING BOXING TO 'THE STREET'...
'"It's not about punching being used in the ring, it's about defending yourself on the street. Fundamentally, without gloves, without bandage wraps and no rules every boxer from a school boy to a world champion brawls on the street-you can even see that when boxers 'go for it' at a weigh in! No boxer I've ever seen street fighting, fights like they train in a boxing gym and certainly don't fight in the same way that they do in a ring. Something as simple as grabbing a boxer's left wrist will not only muck up his left jab but also his straight right punch-he'll end up swinging his right hand at your face as he tries punching over or through his own left arm!
I've seen lots of boxers street fight, from good amateurs, semi pros, pros and even a world champion and they all brawl, admittedly some a lot better than others. I first start boxing as a school boy and remember talking to my trainer when I was 17. He was a Second World War veteran, about 50 years of age and an ex pro who at the end of his career spent his time taking on all-comers in fair ground booth boxing. I was talking about using boxing in the street. His fatherly advice was 'boxing can be helpful but be careful there are some really good fighters out there that don't box...' It's a flaw of thinking to think that all street brawlers are just idiots. In my experience a lot of 'handy street fighters, were boxers who had adapted their techniques, based on personal experience, for the street. They upped their game and were not adverse to grabbing, grappling, sticking both the nut (head) and boot in and gouging and biting!'
Dennis Jones, long-term bouncer and street fighter
https://outofthiscentury.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/monstery_selfdefenseforgentlemenandladies.jpg?w=604
“I teach the following tricks, not with any idea that they are to be used in friendly encounters with the gloves, but solely for the protection of gentlemen who may, at any time, against their will, be forced into an encounter with a street ruffian.”
From Monstery's 'Self Defense for Gentlemen and Ladies'
Women 'boxing' (and looking like they're having a good scrap!) in Victorian London
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/d3/aa/ff/d3aaffcd110495ba4864e1770f5a34b9.jpg
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'A man who has boxed only with the gloves on, and has never had experience of a real fight, can be considered only as an amateur; though he may possibly be a good amateur.
The boxer who may fairly claim to be a professional is one who has practically encountered the dangers and the difficulties of fights with good antagonists.'
Ned Donnelly, 'Self Defence; or the Art of Boxing' (1881)
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'As to boxing, we have guards which are not at all like the guards taught in schools...'
E.W.Barton-Wright
http://cdn0.vox-cdn.com/assets/4593423/Mendoza-style_cross-armed_guard_medium.png
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/03/37/1e/03371e84cf5bf7b3f2a9f86b8dfaecf0.jpg
https://defensedanslarue.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/articulated-guards-5.jpg?w=294&h=300
Former undercover narcotics officer and corrections officer, Craig Douglas, showing the 'default position' he developed to reduce damage from surprise or overwhelming attacks.
Former undercover narcotics officer and corrections officer, Craig Douglas, showing the 'default position' he developed to reduce damage from surprise or overwhelming attacks.
http://i486.photobucket.com/albums/rr226/forrest0872/Shivworks%20ECQC%20June%202012/IMG_8671-Copy.jpg
Of course, while this has no historical link to 'Nouveau-Bartitsu', or the arts that comprise it- at least not directly- Barton-Wright himself stated that Bartitsu meant 'self defense in all its forms'.
'Nouveau-Bartitsu' has 3 concerns; history, sport and self-defense.
The ideal and honest aim is to have all 3 of those elements work together as best as possible (in a kind of 'synergy').
I will, therefore, base all of my efforts and developments as I always have; using history, sport and self-defense as the sources that guide and shape this work.
In this case, Craig Douglas is without doubt qualified to provide ideas and insights from the 'self-defense' angle- as has anyone with real experiences of conflict, violence and criminality (like me! ha ha).
The historical texts are all there and anyone can find and study them.
Combat sports are available easily, too- and practical knowledge can come at the cost of sweat, pain and overcoming fear.
Not everyone wants, needs or happens to gain sufficient exposure to real-world threat and assaults needed to gain some 'authority' on that subject, though.
We should all pay attention to and respect all 3 sources...
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'Many a good boxer who suddenly found himself in holds with a wrestler would be at a disadvantage unless he had also a smattering of the science of wrestling, and, therefore, the art of self-defence (to be thorough) should take in not only a knowledge of how to hit, but also how to grapple and throw.'
From the Australian Northern Star in 1910
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Sketches of a couple of old (pre-Queensbury) 'boxing' matches
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/The_Fight_between_Hammer_Lane_and_Owen_Swift.jpg
https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhv2kkkgTNAdASDMHl5Og_qeH74oLeT3ne-puwfGhuwXhGaZpTwm8vtR5VoCHcT8E90Ts8-dATQtiq3_X3WRIorRNCSmbzb651YUu1B2vbAc0Qswbc3c00gBZJCI4B-e3WoOcbCPccH8YCl/s1600/Bendigo+v+Ben+Caunt+,+1845+world+title+fight+won+by+Bendigo+in+the+93rd+round+,+here+Caunt+raises+him+by+the+neck.jpg
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Two world champions brawl in a puddle!
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/19/article-0-11D106CB000005DC-428_468x321.jpg
Press Conference Brawls
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRBfZna8QlA
David Haye might have read this book! LOL
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1848105/thechancery2.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2012/02/19/article-2103473-11CF6996000005DC-903_468x336.jpg
Randy Couture- a greco-roman wrestler with boxing experience from his Navy days- might even have written the book!
http://www.cagedinsider.com/wp-content/images/mma/2013/02/mma_couture_gonzaga_580_crop_340x234_display_image.jpg
http://freegifmaker.me/img/res/1/4/7/4/5/4/1474549296181325.gif?1474549318
http://www.mmawiki.org/en/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/dirty-boxing.jpg
'John L. Sullivan shaved the sides of his head in preparation for a fight to prevent hair pulling. He worked on takedown defense in training camp because being thrown down counted just as much as a knock down. He used to wrestle with William Muldoon, the great strong man and conditioning expert of his era, to get ready for big fights.'
Collar ties and wrist control seem to fundamental wrestling methods that were used in pre-gloved boxing,
and they are also moves that untrained people will use naturally in a fight.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/89/dc/04/89dc04af6613a5ac18fd851dce782ba3.jpg
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/multimedia/archive/00264/102558921_Haye_264714b.jpg
http://www.isport.com/images/guide/12838010122010062015.jpg
http://jiujitsumag.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/A01.jpg
http://survival-mastery.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/Street-fighting-810x605.jpg
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2014/05/13/article-2626830-1DCA3E0B00000578-848_634x742.jpg
Break it up lads, no holding and hitting (especially for world champion boxers!)
https://www.thesun.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/1456037.main_image.jpg
If you're wearing clothing (which you most probably will be!), don't be surprised if people grab it, or if you instinctively grab others clothing...
https://media.giphy.com/media/NFrrMtWmCSVG/giphy.gif
That last gif is of two boxing champions scuffling/brawling.
Looks like two 'normal guys' fighting in a bar, right?
We might train to refine our technique and increase our skill level, but it's vital to now WHAT technique to refine, and WHAT skill to increase.
For self-defence we must realise that people naturally fight a certain way, and do so for a reason.
We're best off studying how people actually attack/fight others, and modifying our sport training to allow for that.
Sports have rules exactly to STOP fights descending into messy, chaotic brawls!
I'm not including this next video because it's special, but precisely because it is so typical of the vast majority of fights I've seen or been involved in (as both a bouncer and later homeless).
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=256_1409218965&comments=1
People won't likely touch gloves before they take a swing at you!
If you need to hit someone to defend yourself, you shouldn't give them warning, either.
This next clip is from a video which revolutionised self-defence training in the UK.
The sucker punch literally is the oldest trick in the book, yet it took martial artists a long time to catch on to what street fighters have been doing since the caveman days.
Keep yourself switched on to this most basic (and effective) of tactics, and practice controlling your space and hitting from all kinds of positions that aren't a conventional 'boxing guard'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6OJnZG3joA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FGLhlakkUk
Another aspect you'll see in many fights is that there's not always loads of space to move around in, as we tend to get in a ring or on a mat.
Things and people get in the way- the latter very often on purpose (!) - and can limit our movement, trip us up or even join in.
The floor may be slippery or uneven, and fancy footwork might just land you on your ass- grappling and/or taking kicks to the head...
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Boxing fouls.
They're illegal because they work!
You cannot hit below the belt, hold, trip, kick, headbutt, wrestle, bite, spit on, or push your opponent.
You cannot hit with your head, shoulder, forearm, or elbow.
You cannot hit with an open glove, the inside of the glove, the wrist, the backhand, or the side of the hand.
You cannot punch your opponent's back, or the back of his head or neck (rabbit punch), or on the kidneys (kidney punch).
You can't hold your opponent and hit him at the same time.
When the referee breaks you from a clinch, you have to take a full step back; you cannot immediately hit your opponent--that's called "hitting on the break" and is illegal.
If you score a knockdown of your opponent, you must go to the farthest neutral corner while the referee makes the count.
If you "floor" your opponent, you cannot hit him when he's on the canvas.
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Of course, where circumstances and ability permit, 'pure' boxing skills can work very nicely indeed...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2qPMFijyks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW4NqooT4wk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0HL9CvINKY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZMKGJKzekA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HzS5uinEpyU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkXtYxHfENw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_T3X8hESLuA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTqtuiM4h0c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srhO2Ug9t8M
WRESTLING'S DOUBLE WRIST LOCK / JIUJITSU'S UDE GARAME
'A lot of takedowns from the Judo style and the Catch Wrestling style
have similarities, likely resulting from the exchange of ideas between
the Japanese and the American and European wrestlers when the two
cultures met to compete from the late 1890's onwards. There is a ton of
information out there on the competitive interactions between the two,
better served for a history thread, but the rivalry between the two
styles grew into a relationship of mutual respect, with Jigoro Kano and
Mitsuyo Maeda believing in the value of learning wrestling to add to his
Jiu Jitsu / Judo, and Wrestlers from Martin Burns, Frank Gotch, Georg
Hackenschmidt and later Ed Lewis believing in the value of learning Jiu
Jitsu / Judo to add to their wrestling. Ad Santel, a contemporary and
sparring partner of Frank Gotch, defeated members of the Kodokan at
their own game and declared himself Judo world champion, later losing a
match and relinquishing this made up title. Santel was the key
instrument in bringing wrestling to Japan in the early 20th century.
The most permeating version of the Double Wrist Lock is the British / European style, as both Billy Robinson and Karl Gotch taught Antonio Inoki's New Japan Pro Wrestlers that version, and it can be seen carried on by Yoshiaki Fujiwara (considered Gotch's best student, and the only man Gotch willingly endorsed to teach his style) and his students Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki, as well as Billy Robinson trained wrestlers Kiyoshi Tamura, Kazushi Sakuraba, and Billy Scott, to name but a few.'
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'The kimura lock, also called double wristlock (catch wrestling), chicken wing or gyaku ude-garame (judo) is a grappling submission hold of uncertain origin, being catch wrestling and judo the likely authors of the position.
The lock was also utilized in freestyle wrestling, being Robin Reed one of the most decorated spreaders of the position, having paved the way to a gold medal at the 1924 Paris Summer Olympics with several pins performed with the use of the double wristlock.'
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4d/6f/da/4d6fda6c0c6ed7e5381279c4d1093436.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/15/49/44/154944cce229d15394a4cca9cd49b8a1.jpg
Earle Liederman shows variations of the technique.
http://gnarlmaster.tripod.com/gnarlmaster/Doublewristlock.htm
'The brothers Dave and Mark Schultz, former collegiate champions from Oklahoma, were accused of ''excessive brutality'' in their Olympic matches today, and a special official was assigned to monitor the rest of their bouts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSAWYs7Qtw
Catch-wrestling trained Kazushi Sakuraba breaks Renzo Gracie's arm with a double wrist lock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge34hs-4PKk
The forearm shove in the first version shown here, if it were converted to a full power elbow strike, could clearly translate to a self-defence application (I wouldn't try the rolling takedown after it, though)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsloF850Qkg
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'Ude garami, or bent arm lock, can be done many ways and from different positions in Kodokan Judo. The opponent's arm can be bent upwards towards the head or down towards the legs. It often uses considerable twisting action that can injure the shoulder as well as the primary target of the elbow joint.'
http://judoinfo.com/images/tomiki2.jpg
http://samuraijitsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/kimura-standing-ude.jpg
Masahiko Kimura demonstrates Ude Garami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iirBnHV8oVQ
Mashiki Kimura breaks BJJ founder Helio Gracie's arm with Ude garami.
http://judoinfo.com/images/kimuragracie.jpg
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In Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and MMA, the same technique is generally referred to as the 'Kimura', named after the judoka who broke BJJ's founder Helio Gracie's arm with it.
Mir breaks Noguiera's arm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9a7Uelzgo
Snap! :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPllsGLisI
Ew!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtMonVbdYxw
Karo Parysian demoing a rolling double wristlock takedown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2FajIE2gHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyn-ChKxX_A
Very nice demo by Nick Diaz of a kimura takedown, countering a reverse body lock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=105&v=8j10wSz5cGM
The quote at beginning of my 'article' and last video take from here :)
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-ultimate-kimura-double-wrist-lock-thread.2180907/
Police officer shows an application for his job (or for anyone needing to restrain a criminal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB00NBErEyw
The most permeating version of the Double Wrist Lock is the British / European style, as both Billy Robinson and Karl Gotch taught Antonio Inoki's New Japan Pro Wrestlers that version, and it can be seen carried on by Yoshiaki Fujiwara (considered Gotch's best student, and the only man Gotch willingly endorsed to teach his style) and his students Masakatsu Funaki and Minoru Suzuki, as well as Billy Robinson trained wrestlers Kiyoshi Tamura, Kazushi Sakuraba, and Billy Scott, to name but a few.'
.....
'The kimura lock, also called double wristlock (catch wrestling), chicken wing or gyaku ude-garame (judo) is a grappling submission hold of uncertain origin, being catch wrestling and judo the likely authors of the position.
The lock was also utilized in freestyle wrestling, being Robin Reed one of the most decorated spreaders of the position, having paved the way to a gold medal at the 1924 Paris Summer Olympics with several pins performed with the use of the double wristlock.'
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4d/6f/da/4d6fda6c0c6ed7e5381279c4d1093436.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/15/49/44/154944cce229d15394a4cca9cd49b8a1.jpg
Earle Liederman shows variations of the technique.
http://gnarlmaster.tripod.com/gnarlmaster/Doublewristlock.htm
'The brothers Dave and Mark Schultz, former collegiate champions from Oklahoma, were accused of ''excessive brutality'' in their Olympic matches today, and a special official was assigned to monitor the rest of their bouts.
The brothers each wrestled once in the afternoon,
and each opponent went to the hospital...............
Mark Schultz, 23 years old, broke the left elbow of
the 180.5-pound European champion, Resit Karabachak of Turkey, 30
seconds into the match on the takedown.
Earlier, Saban Sejdi of Yugoslavia suffered a knee
injury in a match with Dave Schultz in the 163-pound class........
Angry Turkish officials accused Mark Schultz of
using an illegal hold and demanded that he be disqualified. The
president of the International Wrestling Federation, Milan Ercegan of
Yugoslavia, subsequently ruled that the double wrist lock was illegal
and declared Karabachak the winner.'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otSAWYs7Qtw
Catch-wrestling trained Kazushi Sakuraba breaks Renzo Gracie's arm with a double wrist lock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ge34hs-4PKk
The forearm shove in the first version shown here, if it were converted to a full power elbow strike, could clearly translate to a self-defence application (I wouldn't try the rolling takedown after it, though)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsloF850Qkg
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'Ude garami, or bent arm lock, can be done many ways and from different positions in Kodokan Judo. The opponent's arm can be bent upwards towards the head or down towards the legs. It often uses considerable twisting action that can injure the shoulder as well as the primary target of the elbow joint.'
http://judoinfo.com/images/tomiki2.jpg
http://samuraijitsu.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/kimura-standing-ude.jpg
Masahiko Kimura demonstrates Ude Garami
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iirBnHV8oVQ
Mashiki Kimura breaks BJJ founder Helio Gracie's arm with Ude garami.
http://judoinfo.com/images/kimuragracie.jpg
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In Brazilian Jiu-jitsu and MMA, the same technique is generally referred to as the 'Kimura', named after the judoka who broke BJJ's founder Helio Gracie's arm with it.
Mir breaks Noguiera's arm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH9a7Uelzgo
Snap! :(
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPllsGLisI
Ew!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AtMonVbdYxw
Karo Parysian demoing a rolling double wristlock takedown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U2FajIE2gHI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zyn-ChKxX_A
Very nice demo by Nick Diaz of a kimura takedown, countering a reverse body lock
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=105&v=8j10wSz5cGM
The quote at beginning of my 'article' and last video take from here :)
http://forums.sherdog.com/threads/the-ultimate-kimura-double-wrist-lock-thread.2180907/
Police officer shows an application for his job (or for anyone needing to restrain a criminal)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uB00NBErEyw
Friday 14 October 2016
'NOUVEAU-BARTITSU' BASE ARTS (BOXING, SAVATE, JIUJITSU/JUDO, WRESTLING, IMPROVISED WEAPONS) AGAINST CRIMINALS...
NELSON HOLD VS ROBBER WITH HANDGUN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elqjcVa4FoY
JIUJITSU GIRL HOLDS ROBBER IN SANGAKU JIME VARIATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVrWC76JJbA
OLD JIUJITSU GUY HOLDS ROBBER IN MOUNT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkxQ1KxFHaA
JIUJITSU GUY HOLDS THIEF IN HADAKA JIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vY55zSP5M
BOXER KNOCKS OUT ROBBER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvIhsGV9ek
LITTLE BOXER KNOCKS OUT AGGRESSOR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSsIHX5TuM
2 THUGS DROPPED BY BOXER DEFENDING GIRLFRIEND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JH80eZEzSw
LADY THROWS ROBBER WITH ASHI WAZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkSulF3IzS0
JUDOKA HITS ARMED ROBBER WITH CHAIR AND HOLDS HIM FOR POLICE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7719161/Martin-Richardson-have-a-go-hero-hits-armed-robber-with-a-chair.html
ODD ROBBERY, STAND OFF WITH UNEQUAL WEAPONS (POLE VS HAMMER)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqpB8VifxAE
STOREOWNER KOs ROBBER WITH STICK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57EsTM9zbE
JUDO THROW OF ROBBER (HARAI GOSHI?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmT9TGilEUc
POLICE OFFICER RESTRAINS FLEEING SUSPECT WITH JIUJITSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZue43Ciyk
OLD BOXER BASHES BURGLAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaCphbkJGDQ
WRESTLER COP THROWS TROUBLEMAKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MaevAb_KkQ
JIUJITSU ALLOWS SITUATION TO BE RESOLVED WITH MINIMAL FORCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wWNS8d0kMo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4xCc2aUZgk
WOMAN TKOs NUISANCE MAN WITH DROP SEIO NAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRgoy1bC7k
OLD BOXER KOs TROUBLEMAKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHm31XliRgY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elqjcVa4FoY
JIUJITSU GIRL HOLDS ROBBER IN SANGAKU JIME VARIATION
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVrWC76JJbA
OLD JIUJITSU GUY HOLDS ROBBER IN MOUNT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkxQ1KxFHaA
JIUJITSU GUY HOLDS THIEF IN HADAKA JIME
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4vY55zSP5M
BOXER KNOCKS OUT ROBBER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=REvIhsGV9ek
LITTLE BOXER KNOCKS OUT AGGRESSOR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFSsIHX5TuM
2 THUGS DROPPED BY BOXER DEFENDING GIRLFRIEND
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JH80eZEzSw
LADY THROWS ROBBER WITH ASHI WAZA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkSulF3IzS0
JUDOKA HITS ARMED ROBBER WITH CHAIR AND HOLDS HIM FOR POLICE
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/7719161/Martin-Richardson-have-a-go-hero-hits-armed-robber-with-a-chair.html
ODD ROBBERY, STAND OFF WITH UNEQUAL WEAPONS (POLE VS HAMMER)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZqpB8VifxAE
STOREOWNER KOs ROBBER WITH STICK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o57EsTM9zbE
JUDO THROW OF ROBBER (HARAI GOSHI?)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmT9TGilEUc
POLICE OFFICER RESTRAINS FLEEING SUSPECT WITH JIUJITSU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZue43Ciyk
OLD BOXER BASHES BURGLAR
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaCphbkJGDQ
WRESTLER COP THROWS TROUBLEMAKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MaevAb_KkQ
JIUJITSU ALLOWS SITUATION TO BE RESOLVED WITH MINIMAL FORCE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wWNS8d0kMo
Robber scared off by chair & stick in Chinese gold shop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-0Sq44ml-PQ
BOXER DEFENDS HIS LADY AND BEATS TWO THUGS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9M8-4rNuD4w
SHOPOWNERS WITH A TABLE LEG AND A HOCKEY STICK FIGHT OFF TWO ROBBERS ARMED WITH TYRE IRONS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4xCc2aUZgk
WOMAN TKOs NUISANCE MAN WITH DROP SEIO NAGE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfRgoy1bC7k
OLD BOXER KOs TROUBLEMAKER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHm31XliRgY
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