SAVATE KICKS IN COMBATIVES
DENNIS MARTIN
'The Stab-kick is the Edge-of-boot-kick , or Side-kick common to Combatives.
A low side kick is found in Karate, but relies on a snapping action, with weight retained on the supporting foot
The Stab-kick commits body weight fully, smashing through the target.
Can be used forward, sidways, rear-angle. Targets, knee, shin.
Can be a first-strike, moving in on the threat. Or, can be used as a follow up, especially to head/neck area strikes.
All in all, a good tool in the armoury.
Note I don't teach/use the Savate-type oblique kick to the shin...a couple of years ago Si James and myself attended a training course where this technique was emphasised greatly. The instructor, who was trying to make a name for himself in the self protection field, told us how devastating it was, and quoted the fact that it took only eight pounds of force to break the shin bone.
He had a couple of shinguards and we formed lines and took it in turns to run up to the trainee wearing the guard and blast his shin.
This continued OK and everyone was really getting in to it and developing impact.
Then one guy ran up and kicked the target-guy on the wrong leg, the leg without the shinguard...and nothing happened. Although blasted full force the guy didn't go down, didn't go into shock, just stood there and told the trainee it was the wrong leg!
As for the "eight pounds of force" this is one of those statements we find a lot in our business, that may be factual but impractical. In some test with a bone scientists may have established the force tolerance, but this doesn't apply to the real world.
You could argue that one failure doesn't prove anything, that all techniques can fail. Agreed. It's just that I've never used that kick anyway, and I won't teach a technique I haven't used....especially one I've seen fail so dismally.
Anyway, it's no problem, there are plenty of other techniques, and we should be looking to reduce techniques in the toolbox rather than add to them.
That training course was crap, but I did learn something, even if it was a negative. A while later I noticed an advert for another training program which sounded interesting and mentioned it to Simon. He gave me a reality check by saying "it's just another day training with some wanker with no experience". This is now the test I apply to any course!
Here is a photo of me demonstrating the Stab-kick.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/DenCQB/Stab-kick.jpg
Please note, the picture is not fully accurate. Because the digital camera won't freeze action I had to pose the shot, and am retaining my balance on the supporting leg. Actually, my full weight would go into the strike.'
The Stab-kick is quite versatile, you can deliver it frontally, sideways and obliquely. You can fire it from extreme close-range, or use it to close the gap [for example, in Third-party situations].
It's a good technique to have in the toolbox.
http://img.photobucket.com/…/…/DenCQB/Stab-kickPatrick-1.jpg
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Coup de pied bas/ Shin kick/ Oblique kick
Here is an example of the shin kick used to counter a hair grab, place both hands on top of the aggressor's hand to trap it in place from here smash the inside edge of your boot straight into his shin bone being sure to drop body weight and stomp through the target.
http://www.urbancombatives.com/sk1.gif
http://www.urbancombatives.com/sk2.gif
http://www.urbancombatives.com/sk3.gif
Method of practice: The shin kick is delivered by taking a slight step forward with your non-kicking leg followed by stomping forward and slightly downward with the inside boot edge of your kicking foot. The kick is aimed at the aggressor's shin any where from just above the ankle to just below the knee cap. The purpose of the slight step preceding the kick is to allow you to get body weight and momentum behind it. Performed correctly the shin kick will quite literally either blow the aggressor's legs out from under him or severely hyper extend his knee resulting in a fight stopping injury.
Carl Cestari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFdMeidbI58
DENNIS MARTIN
'The Stab-kick is the Edge-of-boot-kick , or Side-kick common to Combatives.
A low side kick is found in Karate, but relies on a snapping action, with weight retained on the supporting foot
The Stab-kick commits body weight fully, smashing through the target.
Can be used forward, sidways, rear-angle. Targets, knee, shin.
Can be a first-strike, moving in on the threat. Or, can be used as a follow up, especially to head/neck area strikes.
All in all, a good tool in the armoury.
Note I don't teach/use the Savate-type oblique kick to the shin...a couple of years ago Si James and myself attended a training course where this technique was emphasised greatly. The instructor, who was trying to make a name for himself in the self protection field, told us how devastating it was, and quoted the fact that it took only eight pounds of force to break the shin bone.
He had a couple of shinguards and we formed lines and took it in turns to run up to the trainee wearing the guard and blast his shin.
This continued OK and everyone was really getting in to it and developing impact.
Then one guy ran up and kicked the target-guy on the wrong leg, the leg without the shinguard...and nothing happened. Although blasted full force the guy didn't go down, didn't go into shock, just stood there and told the trainee it was the wrong leg!
As for the "eight pounds of force" this is one of those statements we find a lot in our business, that may be factual but impractical. In some test with a bone scientists may have established the force tolerance, but this doesn't apply to the real world.
You could argue that one failure doesn't prove anything, that all techniques can fail. Agreed. It's just that I've never used that kick anyway, and I won't teach a technique I haven't used....especially one I've seen fail so dismally.
Anyway, it's no problem, there are plenty of other techniques, and we should be looking to reduce techniques in the toolbox rather than add to them.
That training course was crap, but I did learn something, even if it was a negative. A while later I noticed an advert for another training program which sounded interesting and mentioned it to Simon. He gave me a reality check by saying "it's just another day training with some wanker with no experience". This is now the test I apply to any course!
Here is a photo of me demonstrating the Stab-kick.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v712/DenCQB/Stab-kick.jpg
Please note, the picture is not fully accurate. Because the digital camera won't freeze action I had to pose the shot, and am retaining my balance on the supporting leg. Actually, my full weight would go into the strike.'
The Stab-kick is quite versatile, you can deliver it frontally, sideways and obliquely. You can fire it from extreme close-range, or use it to close the gap [for example, in Third-party situations].
It's a good technique to have in the toolbox.
http://img.photobucket.com/…/…/DenCQB/Stab-kickPatrick-1.jpg
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Coup de pied bas/ Shin kick/ Oblique kick
Here is an example of the shin kick used to counter a hair grab, place both hands on top of the aggressor's hand to trap it in place from here smash the inside edge of your boot straight into his shin bone being sure to drop body weight and stomp through the target.
http://www.urbancombatives.com/sk1.gif
http://www.urbancombatives.com/sk2.gif
http://www.urbancombatives.com/sk3.gif
Method of practice: The shin kick is delivered by taking a slight step forward with your non-kicking leg followed by stomping forward and slightly downward with the inside boot edge of your kicking foot. The kick is aimed at the aggressor's shin any where from just above the ankle to just below the knee cap. The purpose of the slight step preceding the kick is to allow you to get body weight and momentum behind it. Performed correctly the shin kick will quite literally either blow the aggressor's legs out from under him or severely hyper extend his knee resulting in a fight stopping injury.
Carl Cestari
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFdMeidbI58
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